tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post6570012384748392190..comments2024-01-23T05:10:35.472-05:00Comments on Reading, Running, and Red Sox: Review: Roclite 295 (old), Roclite 295 (new), Trailroc 255gibsonmeigshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16094122509371844728noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-45013831870765932332015-05-24T04:08:41.082-04:002015-05-24T04:08:41.082-04:00I also feel that the trailroc is firmer than the r...I also feel that the trailroc is firmer than the roclite. I feel the lugs more in the trailroc. Although Inov-8 website mentions both the trailroc and roclite as standard fit, the trailroc has a much wider toebox.Σπύροςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04458499979955678552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-30861348662392759542014-04-12T20:17:50.724-04:002014-04-12T20:17:50.724-04:00Runningwarehouse states that the stack height of t...Runningwarehouse states that the stack height of the Roclite 295 is 17mm heel-10mm forefoot and for the Trailroc 255 22mm heel-16mm forefoot. Do you feel that the 295 is lower to the ground compared to the 255?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-32374265246393176692014-04-09T09:01:13.284-04:002014-04-09T09:01:13.284-04:00Very good review and comments.I wonder why, accord...Very good review and comments.I wonder why, according to Inov-8,more cushioning means more heel to toe drop. Why zero drop shoes should necessarily be minimal?Σπύροςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04458499979955678552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-48414244079816289622014-03-25T17:16:17.471-04:002014-03-25T17:16:17.471-04:00To me, the Trailroc 255 felt like it offered a lit...To me, the Trailroc 255 felt like it offered a little more support, and was firmer underfoot than the old Roclite 295. The bigger difference, though, was in fit - it really has an entirely different fit. It's worth giving it a try! I've been running in North Face shoes for the past 6 months and really enjoying them. You might take a look at the North Face Ultra Guide as well.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11308509561834397951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-34432406407162300092014-03-24T03:56:41.543-04:002014-03-24T03:56:41.543-04:00I need to replace my old Roclie 295 and would like...I need to replace my old Roclie 295 and would like something with a little more support/cushioning for longer runs. Seems the new Roclite would offer less.<br />Would the Trailroc 255 be a good option? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-60833862521727178552013-07-20T07:12:51.965-04:002013-07-20T07:12:51.965-04:00Hi Joel & Eric... thanks a ton for your advice...Hi Joel & Eric... thanks a ton for your advice and wishes. I will go roclite 295 based your feedback and other blogs and reviews I have read.<br /><br />Will post once I get and try them out.<br /><br />themonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418709496490037307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-44409836151625766752013-07-18T23:33:41.887-04:002013-07-18T23:33:41.887-04:00Kapil, i know Joel responded, but i'll add my ...Kapil, i know Joel responded, but i'll add my two cents as well. i can't say for certain what kind of "striker" i am... i've hit the forefoot at times, the midfoot at times and the heel at times. none of these times did i feel discomfort in the 295s. in fact, the cushioning/protection has only been an issue on a single variety of offroad terrain: when i hit loose stones, the lugs on the 295s are widely space, and at times a rock will let me know it's there. all in all, living in new england, i run fairly technical trails and i never have an issue with the 295. <br /><br />from what i've learned, and i've never owned the trailroc, the trailroc are more narrow in the heel than the roclite. i run the inov8 233 on the road, which has a similar last to the trailroc series and i really like the way it locks the rear foot in while giving the forefoot room to swell/splay. i might try to trailroc 245 at some point (Joel implies the 255s are less nimble than the 295s) to see how they work out. <br /><br />the 295s are a solid shoe though, at least in my experience. <br /><br />congrats on your 50k, and best of luck. hope it goes exactly as you've imagined!!erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02002087469616786196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-91425735481742236342013-07-18T22:20:41.912-04:002013-07-18T22:20:41.912-04:00Kapil,
Congratulations on getting ready for your ...Kapil,<br /><br />Congratulations on getting ready for your first 50k trail race! <br /><br />You are correct: the new roclite 295 is a 2 arrow shoe, whereas the older one was a 3 arrow shoe. I found the difference in support and cushion to be noticeable, but I wouldn't call it significant. I've personally not found that a lack of cushioning increases my chances of injury -- though it does affect how comfortable my feet feel! For me, the Roclite 295s are best for relatively short runs, although my co-blogger, Eric, wore them in a 50 mile race and seemed very happy with them. Everyone's feet are different!<br /><br />As for your second question: The trailroc certainly do NOT fit the same as the roclite. If you buy online, I would suggest buying from a website that offers free returns.<br /><br />Best wishes on your race! Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11308509561834397951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-17515457490519227632013-07-18T07:09:12.561-04:002013-07-18T07:09:12.561-04:00Hi,
Thanks for your review and answers to all the...Hi,<br /><br />Thanks for your review and answers to all the questions. <br /><br />I am going to run my first 50k trail in October. I am mid foot runner. Sometimes I do heel strike. My questions are:<br /><br />1. Is the new roclite 295 a 2 arrow shoe vs. older roclite 295 that was a 3 arrow shoe? Is there a significant difference in support and cushion between the two and therefore higher chances of injury with the newer model? <br /><br />2. I am not able to try trailroc as it is still not available in Singapore. I have tried old roclite 295 and feel comfortable. Can i assume trailroc will fit equally well and buy one online?<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Kapil. <br />themonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418709496490037307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-34330665204636383432013-06-03T16:18:49.846-04:002013-06-03T16:18:49.846-04:00I found the Roclite 295 to feel softer than the Tr...I found the Roclite 295 to feel softer than the Trailroc 255 when my feet landed. However, I could also feel rocks and roots a lot more when wearing the 295s. I don't think that either shoe is noticeably heavier than the other; rather, they are different styles in terms of fit and intended terrain. <br /><br />Eric and I just ran The North Face Endurance Challenge Gore-Tex 50-Mile DC in Roclite 295s -- I wore the older ones and he wore the newer ones. So, Inov-8s description of them feels true to me. But if you are looking specifically for more support, I don't think you'll find that in the 295s. <br /><br />I haven't worn any other shoes in the Inov-8 range yet, so can't comment on other options. Good luck!Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11308509561834397951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-60808969537687002912013-06-01T22:56:49.012-04:002013-06-01T22:56:49.012-04:00Thanks for the review, Joel. My favorite current m...Thanks for the review, Joel. My favorite current mid-distance (15-20 miles) trainer is the TrailRoc 255. I'm looking for something with a bit more under foot for longer runs (currently running in Montrail Masochists for longer runs, but they have far too much underfoot for my liking), so I was considering the Roclite 295. Even based on Inov-8's description of the Roclite 295, it is both heavier and more suitable for the long runs than the TrailRoc 255. But you suggest just the opposite. Maybe I should just be pushing it further in the TrailRocs, rather than assuming I need more support, but assuming I chicken out of that route, would you suggest I look somewhere other than Inov-8 for something a little beefier than the 255s, because, according to this review, the 255s are about as beefy as Inov-8 gets (other than the quite heavier Roclite 315s)? So is Inov-8's description off in your opinion?KifuCoffeeRoasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13312289979498701749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-20654057190606574492013-05-02T11:15:34.934-04:002013-05-02T11:15:34.934-04:00We've not yet had the chance to run in the Fel...We've not yet had the chance to run in the Fellcross, though we'll post a review if we do!Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11308509561834397951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-55476178890568792462013-05-02T06:37:43.434-04:002013-05-02T06:37:43.434-04:00I was wondering if somebody has compared this shoe...I was wondering if somebody has compared this shoe with the Salomon S-Lab Fellcross?HikeVentureshttp://www.hikeventures.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-13158173615810808812013-04-18T12:19:14.698-04:002013-04-18T12:19:14.698-04:00Joe,
I have finally ordered Roclite 295 (new vers...Joe,<br /><br />I have finally ordered Roclite 295 (new version) based on your valuable comments. I have just received the shoes. The fitting is just perfect and lighter than old model. Looking forward to running on these shoes. Thanks for your help.Josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-46091050997979370722013-04-08T15:39:22.054-04:002013-04-08T15:39:22.054-04:00This morning, we received the following questions ...This morning, we received the following questions from one of our readers:<br /><br /><i>How would you judge Roclite vs Trailroc wrt. a course of mostly trail with some (lets say 20%) on asphalt/hard gravel roads? According to the hard/loose/soft barometer on Inov-8's website, Trailroc should win on hard surfaces, but the greater flexibility in the sole of the Roclite you mention seems like a win here. Are the lugs on the Roclite "too much" when hitting hard surfaces?<br /><br />Another question: If you had to pick between the old and the new Roclite 295, with a price difference of about 30 % (current prices from Amazon UK), would the new version be worth the premium?</i><br /><br />Good questions! It would help to know a little bit more about the particular trails you will be running, and also how long you will be running for. However, I feel that both shoes are suitable for a wide variety of trails, and can even handle pavement (although certainly not as well as a road shoe). The Trailroc 255 is much more protective than the Roclite 295. Many people prefer the extra protection on hard/loose surfaces, which may be why Inov-8 gives them the nod for those conditions. Personally, I stll prefer the Roclite 295, as I like to allow my feet to adapt to the surface underfoot. I don't find the lugs to be "too much" at all, and indeed, I'm not even aware of them at all, even on pavement.<br /><br />There is also a very signficant difference between how the two different models fit. I would certainly try on both the Trailroc 255 and the Roclite 295 before making a decision, if you have the opportunity.<br /><br />As for your question about the old and the new versions of the Roclite 295. I don't necessarily think of the new version as being "better"; rather I see them as two similar shoes, with some minor differences. The older version is a little bit more protective, especially under the heel), and the rubber is a little stickier in wet conditions. The newer version is lighter weight and more flexible. It really depends on which set of attributes you want. (I also suspect that the newer version is going to wear out quite a bit faster, so you should figure that in when thinking about costs).<br /><br />I hope that helps! Let us know what you choose and how they feel!<br /><br /> <br />Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11308509561834397951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-36877497377685899072013-03-17T21:05:10.764-04:002013-03-17T21:05:10.764-04:00I wear a size 13 in both the Trailroc 255 and the ...I wear a size 13 in both the Trailroc 255 and the Roclite 295, and in each case, the size feels "right". However, other people have suggested that the Trailrocs run on the small size. To test this out, I pulled the footbeds out of each shoe and measured them. Sure enough, the footbed of the Trailrocs is about 1/4 inch shorter, so they do run a little small.<br /><br />Just as importantly, its worth noting that the shape of the footbed is different between the two shoes. INOV-8 describes the differences on their website:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.inov-8.com/New/Global/Fit.html?L=26" rel="nofollow">http://www.inov-8.com/New/Global/Fit.html?L=26</a><br /><br />This isn't just marketing - there really is a difference between how the shoes fit all the way around. I've described the differences a little above, but the only way to really understand the difference is to try them on.<br /><br />Happy running!Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11308509561834397951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-67713761763124869022013-03-17T20:25:47.934-04:002013-03-17T20:25:47.934-04:00Joe,
Thanks for your speedy response, I am consid...Joe,<br /><br />Thanks for your speedy response, I am considering to get new roclite for my long run training. How's trailroc 255 sizing compared to old roclite?Josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-6967434150717206392013-03-17T10:41:01.026-04:002013-03-17T10:41:01.026-04:00Joseph,
Good question! I've not been able to...Joseph,<br /><br />Good question! I've not been able to detect any difference. I wear a size 13, and the fit of both versions feels almost exactly the same.<br /><br />Since posting this review, I've done a fair bit of running in the new Roclite and am really enjoying it. I continue to believe that the soles are a bit less grippy than the old version, but other than that it is light, flexible shoe that makes you forget you have it on. I have a few longer runs planned in the next several days, and after completing those, I'll put up some further impressions.<br /><br />Thanks for dropping by our blog! If you do decide to try the update, we'd love to hear what you think.<br />Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11308509561834397951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4217670599100952035.post-49361648204962636512013-03-16T05:31:38.899-04:002013-03-16T05:31:38.899-04:00Joe, Thanks for the review. Is there any differenc...Joe, Thanks for the review. Is there any difference in shoe sizing between old and new roclite 295?Josephnoreply@blogger.com